thanks steve, headphones sound pretty good. pairs straight away and works up to about 30' in the office. i dont think i have the a/v remote control profile so cant change tracks etc. is there a way to add this in? only thing they are not good for is an airplane. took them on a recent business trip to italy, got on the plane, switched to flight mode and (obviously) off goes bluetooth, doh! (quote from homer) apart from that they are good.